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1. More Garbage, and a Binary Choice
The same old, same old, what? No surprises here. The performance was, I presume, precisely what we’d all expected, and the battle-lines were drawn long ago. Those whose motto is “For the love of God, go!” – a quorum one might term, ‘The Majority’ – stand on one side. Actually, come to think of it, they stand pretty much everywhere you care to look.
A quieter brigade, more inclined to wait and see how Ange would fare in a third season and with a squad a bit fuller on substance, lurk hither and thither.
And various others make up the remainder, they being the souls for whom articulation of their position requires a pad, a pen, and a few minutes to scribble out the implications – whether or not we win in Bilbao; how much weight should be placed upon European performances; how much one can stomach of the weekly, abject surrender in the League, and so on.
I’m not sure we really need a show of hands at present, but one comment on the airwaves that caused me to scratch behind the ear and ponder was that we Spurs fans have lamented – and other dastardly sorts have mocked – over the years, as we’ve finished anywhere from 2nd to 5th, and bemoaned the fact that Champions League qualification is all well and good, but there are no trophies. Those seasons in which we finished 2nd and 3rd in particular, with nothing to show, still keep AANP awake and grinding the teeth a bit at night, dash it.
Worth noting, at this point, that on last inspection there still aren’t any trophies – but if we are to win next week, I for one will pretty happily sacrifice a proud league position in the Top Five for it (the fact that it would also earn CL qualification is not really the point, so I’ll place to one side for now).
Now finishing 17th is certainly stretching the definition of ‘Sacrificing a proud league position in the Top Five’ to its absolute extreme. Not really what anyone had in mind, admittedly. But still, the point remains that I’d probably accept finishing outside the CL spots as a one-off, if it hooked us a shiny pot.
And once the old cogs started whirring, there was no stopping them. The next thought that had smoke billowing from the ears was that, given that the last time we reached a European final (Poch, Ajax and all that, in 2019) we again finished some way off the Top Four, I’d also venture that our squad simply isn’t – and never has been – equipped for the rigours of a campaign that is successful on two fronts. The 60 games required for a successful European mooch has left our lot gasping and wheezing.
Where the fault lies for that one is a debate for which I’ll quietly exit the room, allowing others to roll up their sleeves and crack their knuckles, but the when the dust settles it does seem to appear that a trophy – and particularly a European one – is only earned at the expense of Top Four league form. It’s a binary choice. Top Four/Five, or a European trophy, but not both.
The plot no doubt thickens when domestic trophies are introduced, as one could feasibly pick up one within half a dozen extra games. Palace certainly made our lot blush with shame with their demonstration of how to approach a Cup Final appearance.
The Europa run, however, evidently requires a bit more fuel than an FA Cup run – and our lot simply haven’t eaten enough spinach to make it through 60 games. Either the first-choice mob collapse in a heap to the soundtrack of yelps of pain, or the second string come in to relive them and promptly engineer a monstrosity of the ilk seen yesterday.
And yesterday was, yet again, as wretched as these things get. Defeats happen, one can grudgingly admit, but performances that play out as the 90-minute equivalent of a stifled yawn ought to elicit some wild and draconian punishment.
As has been parroted on a weekly basis, no matter the quality in Europe, motivating the players for the other stuff is the responsibility of Our Glorious Leader. For every impressive Europa performance he oversees, he seems intent on undoing any goodwill and pronto the following Sunday.
2. Kinsky
On the bright side, that Kinsky bean can probably look back on his afternoon’s work without the same sense of disgrace as just about every one of his chums. It’s a bar so low that it simply lies on the ground, but he was probably the standout chappie.
Mind you, even he had his wobbles, as tends usually to happen to him at some point between 1 and 90. Still possessed by a level of confidence in his kicking ability that I’m not convinced is matched by the output of his size nines, he once again made the AANP heart skip a beat or two when surveying his options with ball at feet yesterday. Not one to rush into a pass if there remains an option to use up every available nanosecond, his dubious tendency to wait until an opposition striker was almost upon him, and then slightly stuff his pass anyway, was once again on display.
There was also one uncomfortable moment in which he made quite the production of what appeared at first sight to be a straightforward shot aimed low to his left, in the first half. I might do the man an almighty injustice here, I suppose. It might be that the ball spun and spat with the vicious unpredictability of one of those mystery spinners from the sub-continent that one hears about on TMS. However, it looked to my untrained eye as if Kinsky dropped himself down as per the textbook instruction, and then paddled around a bit once there, patting the ball back out to his right, for all nearby to engage in an almighty scramble to get there first and have their way.
He remedied it in the end, helpfully enough, so one need not dwell, and as mentioned, he did everything else one would have expected of him, and threw in a few bonus saves too. Back in that glorious era when the game was still alive, the scores level and the faintest whiff of competitive interest still hung faintly in the air, Kinsky seemed convinced that much depended on keeping Palace at bay, and extended all available limbs to their limits in order to achieve this.
One save in particular, from close range in the first half, prompted an impressed murmur of “Golly”, from the AANP lips, it involving the young cove extending himself in all directions at once, in a manner of which any passing spider would have been proud, and somehow repelling a shot from a distance of approximately three yards.
It says much, of course, about the output of the collective when the Outstanding Performer Gong is won by a comfortable mile by the goalkeeper, and even then when flaws can be easily spotted in his performance. But still, might as well celebrate the wins, what?
3. The Rollcall of Ignominy
Because everywhere else one looked one was tempted to shake the head in a manner intended to sting.
I’ll start with that midfield. Bentancur, Sarr and Gray ought to be a triumvirate that elicits expectant nods and maybe even a gleeful rubbing off the hands, when announced pre-kick-off. There isn’t a lilywhite amongst us who hasn’t been eagerly awaiting the emergence of Gray as some species of midfield prodigy, following the quietly impressive way in which he handled himself at centre-back.
And it’s not so long ago that Sarr was the bright young thing in midfield himself, an all-singing, all-dancing ball of energy who just needed the furniture around him to be arranged correctly in order to dash about the place running operations. With Bentancur showing in those Europa jollies a capacity to steady ships and give sensibly, there seemed much to look forward to.
But these three seemed to be of the opinion that if you’re going to let down your paying public, you might as well do so spectacularly, for as unit they simply melted away whenever Palace had the ball. Messrs B., S. and G. allowed the other lot to wander as close as they pleased to our goal, without any hint of stopping them to carry out some spot-checks and ask meaningful questions.
For the first disallowed goal, the midfield three were stranded miles up the pitch. Gray, in fairness, was loosely in the vicinity, but not really offering much in the way of assistance, while Sarr and Bentancur seemed to have more pressing engagements up around the halfway line.
Of the two-man protective shield that has been in evidence on Thursday nights, there was no sign. Bentancur at least had the dignity to use possession well when he had it, but defensive duties just weren’t on the menu.
Nor did things improve in the second half, when Bissouma replaced Bentancur. Bissouma wasted little time in picking up one of his utterly fat-headed bookings for dissent, and then seemed to consider that his afternoon’s work was done. For the second Palace goal, both he and Gray had ample opportunity to break into the trot necessary to prevent Eze having an unhindered pop at goal, but neither bothered.
Gray’s distribution was often wildly awry, and Sarr seemed, not for the first time, not really to know the specifics of his job or the more general question of what sport he was playing.
Those elsewhere did not cover themselves in glory either. Young Spence was similarly caught upfield seemingly every time Palace attacked. It was little surprise that the Palace right-back Munoz had an absolute whale of a time, because every time his colleagues attacked he was happy to stretch his limbs and yell for the ball, safe in the knowledge that Spence was a good dozen or so yards out of position.
Spence did actually look pretty useful coming forward in possession, particularly in the second half, but to have been so far out of defensive position on so many occasions did boggle the mind rather.
As for the attacking mob, once Kulusevski limped off to be replaced by the rarely-spotted Mikey Moore, a collective ripple went about the place that we looked awfully short of upper-body muscle, and Messrs Odobert, Tel and Moore dutifully spent the next hour or so demonstrating precisely that.
Moore gave the odd fleeting glimpse of that trickery for which we all pine, and I suppose all three of them might benefit individually if utilised within a strong XI that plays to their strengths. But none of these criteria seemed to apply yesterday, and after a while the whole thing looked like a Bryan Gil tribute show.
All rather a shame, because in the opening few minutes Kulusevski gave the impression that he planned to make a bit of mischief. Nice to see Sonny back I suppose, although he’ll have to deliver one heck of a performance to convince me that a return to his heights of yesteryear is simmering away beneath the surface.
I remain yet to be convinced by Danso, although one does understand why he has his backers. With a little spit and polish he could turn into a dependable sort; but anyone who has to spend their afternoon alongside Ben Davies and behind a midfield who check out and don’t return, will find the odds stacked against him.
Depressingly, we can presumably expect more of the same against Villa, when Our Glorious Leader faces the unwelcome conundrum of whether to field VDV and Romero (plus Solanke and various others), in order to keep their engines running ahead of Bilbao, but in so doing risk yet another key injury.
25 replies on “Spurs 0-2 Palace: Three Tottenham Talking Points”
To add to the fun, Reguillon decided to cricket Brennan in training today. You couldn’t make it up 🙁
Crock
Sigh
As always AANP, I love reading your observations and visit multiple times after matchdays desperately waiting to read your wonderful take on the state of N17.
I thought I’d give my latest thoughts on the priority deadwood clear-out for the summer:
Postecoglou
Forster
Spence
Dragusin
Davies
Solomon
Gill
Reguillon
Son
Bissouma
Werner
Richarlison
Others likely to leave because they are moderately good:
Romero
Porro
Win’t get much but would like to put the dough towards getting these guys primarily:
Marco Silva
Dean Henderson
Harry Kane
Angel Gomes
Guehi
Eze
Ollie Watkins
Glen Hoddle (bet he could still do the biz!)
Admittedly, many others needed for our CL campaign, time to dream 🙂
Would certainly take Hoddle back in some coaching capacity, love hearing him matter tactically. Guehi, Gomes, Eze and Watkins would also make a hypothetical shopping list.
You’re keeping Vicario? I imagine Marco Silva would give Kinski the nod.
I meant to include Vicario in the list, my apologies. He’s not a safe pair of hands or feet but can stop the odd point blank shot on second attempts. Hardly a good CV for a PL goalkeeper. Can he improve though, Kinsky has some similar traits but I think he has more potential to improve than Vicario.
Facts do tend to spoil a good story, but we did actually qualify for the 2019/20 CL, by finishing 4th, despite also reaching the final.
If the Aussie clown seriously believes that this season’s EL run (past a succession of minor league nonentities, plus Eintracht Frankfurt, whose claim to fame is playing fall-guys to Real Madrid in the 7-3 1960 European Cup Final) excuses our worst league season for nearly 50 years, he deserves the sack for that alone!
On that I’m truly gobsmacked (and my apologies for such a glaring inaccuracy). In my head our league form fell off a cliff during our 2019 run to the final.
I’d point out though that pre-Frankfurt not many were being quite so blasé about them.
Your recollection is correct up to a point, Lord Copper (a literary reference just for you), but we played the group stage while forming part of a trio of contending clubs at the very top of the PL, and seemed to fall of a cliff only when the knockout stage was reached, in the second half of the season.
I don’t suppose the excitement of the run to the final helped our collapsing league form, but it certainly masked it, just as the current clown’s wretched management is being cloaked by a few okay-ish EL performances.
Pochettino’s tally of 24 points from his final 25 PL games didn’t save him from the chop, so how Postecoglou’s 22 points from his last 25 matches have kept him in post is utterly beyond me.
Wrong way round – Pochettino managed 25 points from 24 games, so the current bloke’s position is even less defensible!
It was far worse than I expected and there was little or nothing to say in praise of any of the players – even my favourites were disappointing. Obviously Postecoglou has to go. Winning the Europa League will not provide me with any comfort, and certainly should not affect the decision to move Postecoglou on. I think winning the trophy is unlikely anyway – we have beaten Utd 3/3 already this season 4/4 is highly doubtful. If we do win I imagine I will feel a bit hollow as I did in 1966 as a 13yo completely underwhelmed by the Ramsey team & tactics. Leaving Greavesy out was the final straw but I was already a firm Blanchflower disciple.
I certainly understand both the sentiment and the evidence. What keeps nagging over here is that the ask of any incoming manager would be to do in the league previously what Postecoglou has done in Europe, both in terms of performances and results.
Alas, it seems our esteemed colleagues in the kingdom of AANP suffer from a bit of selective memory loss……are we talking league position of this very same north London club that limped through half a season as an injured wreck? The very same team in the very same league which earned a Europa league placing? whose tournament final you are all anticipating?
Some are actually shocked by our league position!
Selective memory? Since the jammy ten game run at the start of last season, Spurs have played 64 PL games, and totalled 77 points, at an average of 1.2 per game – put that down to injuries if it makes you feel better, but please don’t expect the rest of your ‘colleagues’ to swallow it.
“Mate”…….I dont think ten games would earn us the Europa league spot that we EARNED at the end of last season.
We were bad before the injuries, and have been bad since the injuries.
Before injuries…did you see the suspicious run of opponents we faced who were coming for a 4,5 or 6 match loosing streak-so much for FA’s random match pairing system…..some evil genious is laughing without end as we knock our heads together at Spurs (Its a statistical oddity without a doubt).
As pep says perfomance is all in the head-any one can get out-motivated when facing such a super-motivated opponent.
Post injuries is basically pre-season again for the injured (how many where they-9 players/)
“Suspicious run of games”. There will always be excuses. Some a bit more half arsed than others
I couldn’t understand a word of his post, so perhaps you can explain what he was on about, if you could. ‘Half-arsed’ and then some!
What irked me was that Palace, like us, have a cup final coming up, yet they played their best team so that they could get momentum into the Final. We chose a second(?) string eleven that was lucky to lose by only two goals. Not for the first time has our manager done this; for this reason, I only want him out. Imagine paying good money and wasting time watching this dross. Have they got no shame putting in a performance like that? Luckily I am in South Africa, so I could switch off the TV.
“Mate”, Palace are not unlucky with injuries, like us. Do you want us to show our injury stats this season? Oh by the way, in the Palace game how many of them got injured vs Spurs (in training during the week, how many of Palace players got injured versus our own?).
If we had played key players and they got injured you would be on the coaching team’s neck (do something-get damned, do nothing -get damned)
Oh…. news coming through just now, Kulusevski has had knee surgery from injury sustained during the Palace game. He is out for the rest of the season
…I bet you are very upset with the Coach for playing him when we need him in Bilbao?
A little update from AANP Towers: thoughts on the Villa match are likely to appear on Sunday. Real-world bits and bobs interrupting my Saturday, don’t you know?
Don’t worry mate, you could have just copied and posted the Crystal Palace blog for Aston Villa TBH :-).
I watched the FA cup today and I loved how Palace played and so pleased for them. Why can’t we do it?